Hi there Sam …

It depends on the groups you’re talking about.
For family formals I wouldn’t use f2.8

But for the photos shown here of people dancing, then f4 is adequate since the images will rarely be blown up to a great size.
Instead, most will never be larger than 4×6

I also need one central point / person in focus.
In this instance it would be the bride.

About the exposure problem you describe, it does sound to me like your settings are such that your background will be too dark. You need to lower your shutter speed, and use a wider aperture (the 17-85 isn’t going to help you here), and use a higher ISO … and then your ambient exposure will be brighter.

And then make sure you don’t over-expose your subjects with flash.

Neil vN

Love your lighting technniques, in fact i have been reading your site for quite some time now. Always read your site for inspiration. Tried to applied some of your techniques, some worked some don’t.

I seem to have problem with exposure when the ambient light is dim like in a restaurant. The background looks fine but the subject will most of the time overexposed (clipped image in the histogram). When i dialed down the flash exposure, the image looks dark. I shoot RAW, and most of the photos i’ve taken, i need to readjust their exposure in the RAW software, to removed the clipped area, before i can use them, is this the normal process?

Another thing is i noticed you almost set all your photos apperture in the range of 2.8-4, won’t this affect your picture range of sharpness when you take group photos?

I shoot with Canon 400D, 17-85mm lens, with 580EXII.

Brgds,
Sam

Tomasz

Megs ?

Hi there …

I lit it in exactly the same way. But because I was turned away from the light on the DJ’s speaker, the light from the secondary flash was less obvious on the background than the examples I showed here.

How do I manage to hold the 580EX and camera in either hand?
If I do this, I am using the zoom mostly at specific focal lengths. And then I don’t need my other hand to zoom.

Witih my hand outstretched, I can reach behind guests with the direction my light comes from. It’s much more flexible than a flash bracket.

And I rarely use a flash bracket - mostly because of the way the Canon 1-series D-SLR’s hesitate when the camera is hunting for the IR-beam which is often mis-aligned from the correct axis. This happens because, unlike the Nikon SC-19 cable allows, the Canon TTL cable doesn’t allow the IR-beam to be emitted from the camera like it should.

I hope this helps.

Neil.

How did you light it ? I’m guessing a remote flash or two ?

How do you manage to shoot holding a 580EX in one hand and the camera in the other hand ? Why aren’t you using a frame or putting the 580EX on the camera ?

Thanks

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