Comments on: finding the light http://planetneil.com/tangents/2007/09/12/finding-the-light/ various writings on photography, whether techniques, ideas, equipment info, or just rants. Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:27:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Neil http://planetneil.com/tangents/2007/09/12/finding-the-light/#comment-1056 Neil Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:15:17 +0000 http://planetneil.com/tangents/2007/09/12/finding-the-light-2/#comment-1056 <blockquote>Mike ... you could, but it wouldn't be as reliable as a radio slave set-up. The problem with TTL wireless is that you need line-of-sight. Neil.</blockquote>

Mike … you could, but it wouldn’t be as reliable as a radio slave set-up. The problem with TTL wireless is that you need line-of-sight.

Neil.

]]> By: Mike Murillo http://planetneil.com/tangents/2007/09/12/finding-the-light/#comment-1048 Mike Murillo Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:41:22 +0000 http://planetneil.com/tangents/2007/09/12/finding-the-light-2/#comment-1048 In regards to the Indian wedding setup for the reception, would Canon wireless ST-E2 and a couple of 550's or 580's work for the volume of light required by that large reception hall? I'm trying to avoid investing in PW's as well as the IR system. In regards to the Indian wedding setup for the reception, would Canon wireless ST-E2 and a couple of 550’s or 580’s work for the volume of light required by that large reception hall? I’m trying to avoid investing in PW’s as well as the IR system.

]]> By: Neil http://planetneil.com/tangents/2007/09/12/finding-the-light/#comment-1046 Neil Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:30:28 +0000 http://planetneil.com/tangents/2007/09/12/finding-the-light-2/#comment-1046 <blockquote>Robert ... Because of the size of the room and the height of the ceiling, I wouldn't have been able to get a similar look to the photos than I have achieved here with the aid of using additional Q-flashes. In the scenario you mention, being limited to just one flash, I would also make sure that I use a high ISO, and as wide an aperture as makes sense. My own preference is to stay away from using direct flash. It rarely looks pleasant. If you need a faster recycle time, then use a <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/146171-REG/Nikon_4729_SD_8A_Battery_Pack.html/BI/2096/KBID/2822/" target=_new" rel="nofollow">Nikon SD-8A battery pack</a>, or perhaps one of the Quantum battery packs. Shooting with direct flash just seems like such a poor compromise. Neil vN.</blockquote>

Robert …

Because of the size of the room and the height of the ceiling, I wouldn’t have been able to get a similar look to the photos than I have achieved here with the aid of using additional Q-flashes.

In the scenario you mention, being limited to just one flash, I would also make sure that I use a high ISO, and as wide an aperture as makes sense.

My own preference is to stay away from using direct flash. It rarely looks pleasant. If you need a faster recycle time, then use a Nikon SD-8A battery pack, or perhaps one of the Quantum battery packs.

Shooting with direct flash just seems like such a poor compromise.

Neil vN.

]]> By: Robert http://planetneil.com/tangents/2007/09/12/finding-the-light/#comment-1013 Robert Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:16:38 +0000 http://planetneil.com/tangents/2007/09/12/finding-the-light-2/#comment-1013 Neil, What would have been the best approach/technique if you had shot this wedding and were limited to one on camera flash? I am shooting an event in a similar room(big room /high ceilings) and limited to one flash and no battery pack. My thinking is to diffuse my flash and shoot direct (allowing me to conserve power/recycling time) off camera via an sc-28 cord; the cord giving me some control of direction of light. Is my thinking flawed? Robert Neil,

What would have been the best approach/technique if you had shot this wedding and were limited to one on camera flash? I am shooting an event in a similar room(big room /high ceilings) and limited to one flash and no battery pack. My thinking is to diffuse my flash and shoot direct (allowing me to conserve power/recycling time) off camera via an sc-28 cord; the cord giving me some control of direction of light.

Is my thinking flawed?

Robert

]]> By: Neil http://planetneil.com/tangents/2007/09/12/finding-the-light/#comment-879 Neil Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:07:31 +0000 http://planetneil.com/tangents/2007/09/12/finding-the-light-2/#comment-879 <blockquote>Singh ... I'll add a seperate article at a later date that will explain the technical side a bit more of how I use the Q-flashes and how I wire them up. thanks Neil.</blockquote>

Singh …

I’ll add a seperate article at a later date that will explain the technical side a bit more of how I use the Q-flashes and how I wire them up.

thanks

Neil.

]]> By: Singh http://planetneil.com/tangents/2007/09/12/finding-the-light/#comment-773 Singh Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:29:06 +0000 http://planetneil.com/tangents/2007/09/12/finding-the-light-2/#comment-773 Neil mentioned "The on-camera strobe was in TTL mode." I am still sure the on camera strobe in TTL mode will emit preflash, and even if the remote quantum flashes are triggered by 4i radio slaves the pre-flash may result in pre-matured triggering of the remote flashes. (I have Nikon strobe and it does emit pre-flash in iTTL mode, that causes remote trigger to fire early) Neil, can you please describe the actual settings of the on camera and remote strobes and their mode and connection settings in detail. Thanks for your detailed articles. These shots were really beautiful. Singh Neil mentioned “The on-camera strobe was in TTL mode.”

I am still sure the on camera strobe in TTL mode will emit preflash, and even if the remote quantum flashes are triggered by 4i radio slaves the pre-flash may result in pre-matured triggering of the remote flashes. (I have Nikon strobe and it does emit pre-flash in iTTL mode, that causes remote trigger to fire early)

Neil, can you please describe the actual settings of the on camera and remote strobes and their mode and connection settings in detail.

Thanks for your detailed articles. These shots were really beautiful.

Singh

]]> By: Very Wirawan http://planetneil.com/tangents/2007/09/12/finding-the-light/#comment-770 Very Wirawan Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:02:25 +0000 http://planetneil.com/tangents/2007/09/12/finding-the-light-2/#comment-770 Dear Singh, you missed this: "The additional strobes that I put up in the corners of the room, were Quantum T2 strobes. They were powered by Quantum 2×2 batteries, and triggered by Quantum 4i radio slaves". They triggered by Quantum 41 radio slaves, so pre flashes won't affect them. IMHO Dear Singh, you missed this:

“The additional strobes that I put up in the corners of the room, were Quantum T2 strobes. They were powered by Quantum 2×2 batteries, and triggered by Quantum 4i radio slaves”.

They triggered by Quantum 41 radio slaves, so pre flashes won’t affect them.

IMHO

]]> By: Singh http://planetneil.com/tangents/2007/09/12/finding-the-light/#comment-768 Singh Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:03:58 +0000 http://planetneil.com/tangents/2007/09/12/finding-the-light-2/#comment-768 Dear Neil, Can you please explain how did you setup the remote strobes to trigger thru the wireless, while your on camera flash was in the TTL mode. Its my understanding that when on camera flash is in TTL mode it emits pre flashes, this pre flashes results in the pre-mature triggering of the remote flash whether its optically triggered or thru radio wirelss. Please elaborate on how to use this combination of on camera ttl with remote flashes (I know Nikon CLS flashes can do that bit you did not use it). Thanks for your input.. Singh Dear Neil,
Can you please explain how did you setup the remote strobes to trigger thru the wireless, while your on camera flash was in the TTL mode. Its my understanding that when on camera flash is in TTL mode it emits pre flashes, this pre flashes results in the pre-mature triggering of the remote flash whether its optically triggered or thru radio wirelss. Please elaborate on how to use this combination of on camera ttl with remote flashes (I know Nikon CLS flashes can do that bit you did not use it).

Thanks for your input..

Singh

]]> By: Neil http://planetneil.com/tangents/2007/09/12/finding-the-light/#comment-705 Neil Sun, 27 Jan 2008 05:12:00 +0000 http://planetneil.com/tangents/2007/09/12/finding-the-light-2/#comment-705 <blockquote>Rob, sure ... if I were to take a photo covering the entire space of the area. Instead, I concentrated on photographing in such directions that the spread of light were fairly even. The thing is .. *I* can still choose which direction I shoot in for the most part. Neil vN</blockquote>

Rob, sure … if I were to take a photo covering the entire space of the area. Instead, I concentrated on photographing in such directions that the spread of light were fairly even.

The thing is .. *I* can still choose which direction I shoot in for the most part.

Neil vN

]]> By: Rob Oresteen http://planetneil.com/tangents/2007/09/12/finding-the-light/#comment-698 Rob Oresteen Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:20:05 +0000 http://planetneil.com/tangents/2007/09/12/finding-the-light-2/#comment-698 Neil - maybe a dumb question - but why did you not need 2 strobes on the other side of the dance floor? Isn't the light more intense near the source and trails off way across the floor? Thanks, Rob Neil - maybe a dumb question - but why did you not need 2 strobes on the other side of the dance floor? Isn’t the light more intense near the source and trails off way across the floor?

Thanks,

Rob

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