As far as I know, I think that to “handle photographing a group of 10 inside a hall with high ceilings” depends a bit on the equipment you have in hands. I mean, if you have a MK III is very different of having a Digital Rebel or a G9. We are much more at ease with high level equipment that with low one.

Of course, if you give a MK III to someone who doesn’t know what aperture is, than…
But these are extremes, and I am not in the extremes. I am nor a naive nor an expert, just a concerned amateur.

That said, I think the issue is on changing the ISO of the camera until you get the right result for the right EV. Than we can bounce the flash to the ceiling or wall with or without full power and make two or three test shots to obtain the right settings.

May be these are the reasons why some cameras have automatic ISO…

Please Neil, feel free to erase this message if you think it is inconvenient.
Thank you.

Hi there AJ ..

In the scenario you describe there, unless you’re using additional off-camera lighting, and just staying with a single on-camera flash … then you’re going to have to accept the limitations you’re shooting within. And then you will have to throw enough light forward from your flashgun - which you most likely won’t be able to do by bouncing off the ceiling or some wall somewhere.

So in that case, you’d better be off shooting with your flash in some bounce position where the flash is throwing a fair amount of light forward. And if you want to do vertical shots, then the flash bracket is going to be necessary if you want to avoid sideways shadows.

But in the situation you describe there, I’d most likely revert to using off-camera Q-flashes (Quantum flashes) with umbrellas.

Neil vN

I’ve been lurking around here for months and I love reading the blog. M

My question:
I understand the concept, but I’m wondering how you handle photographing a group of 10 inside a hall with high ceilings? I find myself in that situation periodically and I usually resort to my (bulky and quite obtrusive) flash bracket.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge - it’s GREATLY appreciated.

Cheers,

AJ

Yes. You are right. It’s the way I try to correct my pictures …

Nope, no ‘large white wall’ behind me or to my left.

Re the colour casts due to bouncing flash off non-white surfaces - this is usually no problem at all with a raw workflow.

Neil vN

The light in both picture appears to come from the left and they are both in portrait orientation.
I suspect the flash was bounced against a large white wall …
I myself when I - in my modest photos - bounce the flash the pictures come with a small orange cast …

Very clever
Regards

Hi there Antonio …

It might be that I am misunderstanding your reply, but I think you’re asking whether I had an assistant there holding up another light ?

I did have a 2nd photographer with me, but she works independently from me in covering the wedding for me.

So what you see in that image is *all* lit up by an on-camera speedlight. But my choice of ISO and aperture are such that I was able to light up a very large room with just the 580EX speedlight.

I hope this helps to explain.

Neil vN

But I think your option is the first way .